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January 29, 2019

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Larry – What I have done in past and currently is: Deep Breathing, chew gum or mints, I have fake stuff in my truck now and I have used it once don’t really like it so it there in case of emergencies, Have numbers in your phone to text people to talk you down, eat a healthy snack and drink some water, pray to god to help you get through the crave, read the Bible, Stop, challenge, choose which means. Stop- ask yourself is a want or a need. Challenge- challenge yourself that you can make it another day without dip. Choose- make the correct decision. The main ones that work for me are Deep breathing, praying and simply just telling myself you got this.
Another thing for me is being aware of my surroundings while drinking, where I have failed is by having a few drinks and then someone being around who dips, next thing I know they either offer one or I ask for one because I didn’t use any of the skills mentioned above.
Leave excuses at the door
Quit 02,16, 2018
For me, breaking the physical habit of dipping (having a big wad in my lip, spitting having a spit cup or bottle near by and even having a can in my pocket) was much more difficult than getting over my dependence on nicotine. The act of dipping was so second nature that I felt damn near naked without my pacifier (wad of dip) in my mouth.
For the first couple of days my go to were lollipops. I never really liked the fake chew, as it never seemed to “draw” like real dip did. I did come up with my of substitute for having a dip in my mouth and I know others who have use this “pacifier” as well. Since I was a wintergreen user, I take a stick of wintergreen gum and chew it just enough to get soft (about 10 seconds). Then I would take a cotton ball and chew the cotton ball lightly into the gum so the two were combined. Then I would place the gum/cotton ball combo in the same spot in my mouth where I used to hold my dip. It is amazing how the cotton ball “draws” spit like a wad of dip would. In the early days of my quit I would actually still spit the excess saliva into a spit bottle. Eventually I stopped spitting, but I carry gum and cotton balls everywhere.
Another dip substitute that I really found helpful were TeaZa pouches. It’s just tea in a little pouch similar to a bandit. I was never into bandits when I dipped, but the TeaZa gave me both flavor and the pacifier effect. The flavor would last for hours. Only down side was that the tea stains your teeth.
Aside from shoving things (substitutes for dip) in my mouth, I would also beat back craves by reading the written material that other “quitters” had written. It really le me know that there was hope, and that I could indeed “beat” tobacco if I wanted it bad enough. I also stated writing my own material about quitting and about my irritability and anger as brain tried to adjust to a new way of life. This material that I wrote as well as some writings from other quitters can be found on this site in the “Rage Room”.
Lastly, I am available day or night for any quitter that want to further discuss how to win the battle over our tobacco addictions.
5:38 AM
Apprentice
December 5, 2020

Another explanation and maybe a teaching of how to use the STOP, Challenge, Choose Method
STOP= Stop when having a crave and just take a few deep breaths to calm down and clear your head.
Challenge= Ask yourself why am I having this crave? What is triggering me to have this crave and Is having a dip the best choice for my health? Add as many questions, statements to this part as needed!
Choose= make your decision to dip or not dip. By the time you get to this part the crave should be gone and This now becomes an easy choice to make.
I have been trying a combination of three things. Spitz sunflowers seeds makes a “flaming hot limon” that gives a subtle burn that I like. Jolly ranchers and my favorite: blow pops. Strong flavor, can last a long time, and then the bonus of chewing gum when you get to the center. Just two problems. First, the sugar is so intense that I can’t use them one after another for very long. Second, these days no one seems to understand the Telly Savalas reference when I say “Who loves you, baby?”
10:20 AM
Chuck Norris Status
January 31, 2022

Mike said
I have been trying a combination of three things. Spitz sunflowers seeds makes a “flaming hot limon” that gives a subtle burn that I like. Jolly ranchers and my favorite: blow pops. Strong flavor, can last a long time, and then the bonus of chewing gum when you get to the center. Just two problems. First, the sugar is so intense that I can’t use them one after another for very long. Second, these days no one seems to understand the Telly Savalas reference when I say “Who loves you, baby?”
Ha! Nice Kojak reference! I’m old enough to remember! For me I didn’t need/use the gum or candy (this time), but I was using some herbal supplements for anxiety that seemed to help. That and drink a lot of water, avoid alcohol, avoid other tobacco situations/people, read more stuff on this site and for every little craving, repeat the words “no dip today!” – loudly if you need to – and change my situation, either physically or mentally. And of course, show up for roll call – every single day – to make your promise/proclamation. All this helped me get through the early days and weeks of my quit and much has become it’s own “habit” today.
Any opinions on the Nicotine non-tobacco pouches as an emergency backup? I realize it could result in trading one addiction for the other and you really aren’t quitting the “drug” portion of the habit but just the arguably more dangerous portion. Anyone done any research on the safety of it?
I appreciate everyone’s input.
4:42 PM
Chuck Norris Status
January 31, 2022

20yrUser said
Any opinions on the Nicotine non-tobacco pouches as an emergency backup? I realize it could result in trading one addiction for the other and you really aren’t quitting the “drug” portion of the habit but just the arguably more dangerous portion. Anyone done any research on the safety of it?I appreciate everyone’s input.
I would recommend NOT taking anything with nicotine in it at all! It’s the part that creates the addiction/cravings in the first place. I tried “substitutes”, multiple times, they always failed and in my opinion they will get you nowhere – you will ultimately end up using tobacco again…
This is a non-nicotine site so we don’t endorse any nicotine product or therapy.
To be quit, we have to go no-nicotine sooner or later. That’s where LDF comes in the picture.
Might as well be sooner. It’s all nonsense anyhow. For an alternative, I’d recommend seeing a doctor for a non-nicotine alternative.
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